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Post by MagdaFR on Sept 16, 2023 17:34:22 GMT
archive.ph/NwmVQ#selection-917.0-935.138Obviously he was contacted before publishing so he made a video that was posted yesterday. The right-wingers who are his audience now (conspiracy nuts, MAGA type, anti vaccines, etc) are defending him as a victim of the "establishment". He received support from Elon, Tate, etc. all of them victims, I guess. I always wondered why he was invited to participate in Letters Live. Rumors about him exist since a long time and, even if these allegations go nowhere, his position on covid, vaccines, etc. are bad.
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Post by sgev1977 on Sept 16, 2023 17:56:52 GMT
I hope there are formal lawsuits against him. They are alleging crimes not just ambiguities. I believe the women, of course, but it needs to be done right because if not, they will continuing to be just rumors.
EDITED,
It seems there are strong proofs against him,
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Post by queenzod on Sept 16, 2023 18:24:37 GMT
I’m getting real tired of these men. Why can’t they control themselves? Serious question. We’ve had years and years of pointing out this behavior is not okay, that women are people and not objects, that non-consensual touching is flat out wrong, and yet they persist. Is there something wrong with their brains? And why is it mostly conservative men? I know they think they’re kings of all they survey and can do what they want, but every time one of these guys gets caught, I start seeing red.
We need to start trimming dicks. That’s the one item they seem to revere above everything else. Chop off a few of them and see if that makes them think twice.
ps sorry if this upsets anyone but I’m angry.
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Post by sgev1977 on Sept 16, 2023 18:36:18 GMT
It is a pretty devastating report. They have even police records! Hopefully, it will have actual consequences.
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Post by MagdaFR on Sept 16, 2023 18:39:12 GMT
Another ally. These people have no shame.
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Post by sgev1977 on Sept 16, 2023 18:46:30 GMT
They twisted it and are making it policial. That’s why I hope there is a legal case against him. The American woman seems to have a strong case against him with even some physical evidence apart of the messages and the police report. I hope she changes of opinion now that there are more accusations against him and sue him.
The relationship with the 16 years is extremely creepy but sadly not unlawful in the UK. Apparently, he took precautions about it.
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Post by jbc12 on Sept 16, 2023 18:55:29 GMT
Laurence needs to get in the bin, along with Musk and Tate. Sadly, most aren't surprised by the news, I don't think. It's just that, for whatever reason, he seemed untouchable for the longest time. I'm glad his day has finally come and I hope his victims have the support they need at this time. The press have done a wonderful job getting their ducks in a row and I expect there will be criminal investigations following these reports. It shouldn't ever reach a point where someone has enough power and money to silence victims. There's one more who seems to have the power to keep everything hush-hush and I'm hoping he's uncovered next. On a personal level, I read the article and that was devastating. I won't be watching the program because I know I won't be able to handle any more detail. What I know now is enough to haunt me. We’ve had years and years of pointing out this behavior is not okay, that women are people and not objects, that non-consensual touching is flat out wrong, and yet they persist. It's a bizarre need to have dominance and ownership of another human. The entitlement they feel over another's body is brazen and beyond comprehension.
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Post by jbc12 on Sept 16, 2023 19:34:54 GMT
The amount of support he's getting online is shocking! I don't understand. It's 5 separate accounts from women who don't know each other, with evidence to back it up (including rape clinic records). We don't know how many more may come forward, but 5 people on record now shows a pattern of behaviour, not some misunderstanding. The number of people saying "he's always been promiscuous", as though that is the same as assault and somehow excuses his actions is just baffling. The "boys will be boys" mentality needs to die already. It's so harmful.
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Post by sgev1977 on Sept 16, 2023 22:00:54 GMT
The proofs mentioned on that piece sounds very solid but there is already a backlash to MeToo stories because good old misogyny but also because a few MeToo stories were genuinely ambiguous to say it kindly. That’s why it’s needed something more than just an article or a documentary. Some bad actors (literally in the case of Laurence Fox 😉) obviously will abuse of people doubts towards the movement. They just need it to be something political even when they are affecting to some (apparently) genuine victims.
I just read he received a standing ovation during his show today!
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Post by jbc12 on Sept 17, 2023 6:23:08 GMT
I just read he received a standing ovation during his show today! And seemingly all of twitter is blaming the victims since C4 Dispatches aired. It's grim. He's been untouchable for so long and, with his new position as "guru" and anti-establishment, he has positioned himself in such a way that he's shielded. I do hope there's enough evidence to trigger police investigations. I think the major problem will be that some of these crimes happened in the US where the laws are different. And as you pointed out, they've made it political now, so if there are investigations, it will be like Trump where his fanbase just doubles down on the conspiracy theories. I want a reset button on the world. Too many abusers, too many apologists. It shouldn't be this unsafe. Start over already. This is just so grim. I had hoped that with Brand officially exposed, we'd then have people speaking up about the other one who is widely known to be just as problematic. Now I can see that it won't matter. Uncovered or not, they're shielded by their celebrity status. We learned nothing from Savile. I despair at the state of the country. Sorry for the early morning rant. Edit: Typos, and omg I have to stay off this topic on twitter. These people have raised my blood pressure. The poor victims must be reeling this morning. I hope they have lots of support.
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