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Post by roverpup on Jul 20, 2017 20:29:52 GMT
I just don't understand why some people couldn't get the joke with AM. really it was so obviously done in a humorous, satirical vein. Is that sort of humour just lost on this generation? Does everything have to be as openly crass as a fart joke to be universally understood? Is sophisticatedly structured humour that rests on satire a lost art?
I guess at one point BC himself was worried a bit that this would get misunderstood - I am thinking back to the video of him joking around with Tom about his "demands" and then he made sure to add in that in the era of fake news these sort of jokes can be easily taken as real and nothing that was said was the least bit true. It is truly sad that that sort of proviso has to be added in because so many people have lost the ability to distinguish between satirical humour and reality.
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Post by dreamsincolour on Jul 20, 2017 23:37:18 GMT
Yeah, I think a lot of folks didn't get the Benjamin joke. And thought BC was upset at being burdened with Holland, lol. What I find kinda touching, actually, is these guys are like a really big family. BC never had a brother (shades of Eurus, perhaps? 🤔) so this manly teasing and smacking between them is teaching him something about that bro level of communication. Must be nice for him. ☺️ BC's a public schoolboy. And that ease with your bro's (for want of a better way of putting it), is par for the course for the majority of public schoolboys. They seem to acquire it almost by osmosis and those you go to school with become like family. It can serve them very well too. That's one of the reasons why the old boys club is so criticised by many, without really understanding that it's not always so much about who you know as about just being that much more personable.
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Post by sgev1977 on Jul 20, 2017 23:47:05 GMT
That tweet by the director calling BC, Michael Fassbender has comments of people perplexed because they don't find Fassbender in the image!!! Seriously it's amazing how people on Internet seems really slow.
In the case of favorite actors, I think it's just that weird mania of super fans fantasizing they are protecting their idol but we all know it could get really creepy and delusional.
This morning someone posted a video of John McCain during, I guess, his campaign in which a woman has a microphone and she just said that Obama is an Arab so quickly McCain took the microphone and said to her "No, no...he is a decent man, a family man who just happen to have different opinions than mine". Someone who looked like a thirty something years old man then posted that McCain was a racist! Because according to him he clearly thinks that the opposite of being an Arab is being decent! I though "how it's possible that a 30 something has such a short memory to remember that it was extreme right wings the ones who fabricated the idea that Obama was Muslim/Arab to, in their eyes, tarnish his character? The racist there was the ignorant woman who was stopped by the candidate when he knew she was spreading a malicious lie (you know like the ones that helped to Trump to arrive to the presidency) about his rival! The video didn't show McCain being anti-Arab at all just someone who knew that a follower was repeating a ridiculous racist theory about his rival and stopped her. That was class but thanks to modern (Internet) politics McCain is now a racist and I guess the woman is just a nice old lady who thinks so high of Obama than she called him "an Arab" because she totally respect him and Arabs! Obviously! Context doesn't exist anymore, just people reaffirming the people they don't agree are evil and the ones thy love are victims.
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Post by dreamsincolour on Jul 21, 2017 0:21:02 GMT
I just don't understand why some people couldn't get the joke with AM. really it was so obviously done in a humorous, satirical vein. Is that sort of humour just lost on this generation? Does everything have to be as openly crass as a fart joke to be universally understood? Is sophisticatedly structured humour that rests on satire a lost art? I guess at one point BC himself was worried a bit that this would get misunderstood - I am thinking back to the video of him joking around with Tom about his "demands" and then he made sure to add in that in the era of fake news these sort of jokes can be easily taken as real and nothing that was said was the least bit true. It is truly sad that that sort of proviso has to be added in because so many people have lost the ability to distinguish between satirical humour and reality. :-)) This is still a bit more of an American thing, I think, as well as an extension of the ridiculous perception that any and every idiot is supposed to be allowed to be judge and jury online now, with bandwagons of outrage, even when there's no conception that people should actually be supposed to know something about whatever it is they want to flap silly mouths about. There always has been the perception that Americans (as a huge generalization) take things much more literally, than the British anyway. That's why British humour can't be relied on to travel very well to America. And BC has obviously learnt a hard lesson in that the most innocent comment or joke may be jumped on by those so inclined, just because they can. It's a difficult world now for those in the public eye, when the most well intentioned thing can be misconstrued (be it through malice or stupidity) to potentially devastating effect. But re the American taking things too literally thing, there's been a decades long series of adverts for a brand of crisps over here, which started with a hugely famous footballer here called Gary Lineker. And they were really funny adverts with Gary Lineker (who famously never got sent off for any misdemeanor in the whole of his career) finding these crisps so irresistible that he'd go to ludicrous lengths to steal them from some little child. They were really funny and they were very effective promoting sales too, but I remember some big discussion about such things and hearing from some relevant American on the subject, that such an advert could never have been made in America because it just wouldn't be understood that it wasn't real and that no sporting hero would even take part because they'd get death threats and would be risking ruining their career. And that was even before the internet age and before climbing onto bandwagons of outrage became a different kind of sport.
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Post by coolclearwaters on Jul 21, 2017 0:41:18 GMT
No. It isn't "an American thing". British humor is and always has been highly regarded here ...not by everyone, of course, because different people find different things funny and some people are stupid. There's also nothing remarkable about people, former public schoolboys or not, joking with each other on a publicity tour. Good lord!
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Post by queenzod on Jul 21, 2017 0:56:24 GMT
Yeah, I think a lot of folks didn't get the Benjamin joke. And thought BC was upset at being burdened with Holland, lol. What I find kinda touching, actually, is these guys are like a really big family. BC never had a brother (shades of Eurus, perhaps? 🤔) so this manly teasing and smacking between them is teaching him something about that bro level of communication. Must be nice for him. ☺️ BC's a public schoolboy. And that ease with your bro's (for want of a better way of putting it), is par for the course for the majority of public schoolboys. They seem to acquire it almost by osmosis and those you go to school with become like family. It can serve them very well too. That's one of the reasons why the old boys club is so criticised by many, without really understanding that it's not always so much about who you know as about just being that much more personable. I had forgotten that BC was a public school boy. So, yeah, of course he knows about that level of how men meet each other. I do think there's a difference, tho, between English bros and American bros. Do English bros chest bump? I may be wrong (chief), but I think American bros are more physical with each other. BC doesn't seem like the slappy kind of bro to me. It was funny seeing him in the "adult" position during D23.
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Post by coolclearwaters on Jul 21, 2017 1:02:52 GMT
I don't know anyone who chest bumps.
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Post by dreamsincolour on Jul 21, 2017 1:16:15 GMT
BC's a public schoolboy. And that ease with your bro's (for want of a better way of putting it), is par for the course for the majority of public schoolboys. They seem to acquire it almost by osmosis and those you go to school with become like family. It can serve them very well too. That's one of the reasons why the old boys club is so criticised by many, without really understanding that it's not always so much about who you know as about just being that much more personable. I had forgotten that BC was a public school boy. So, yeah, of course he knows about that level of how men meet each other. I do think there's a difference, tho, between English bros and American bros. Do English bros chest bump? I may be wrong (chief), but I think American bros are more physical with each other. BC doesn't seem like the slappy kind of bro to me. It was funny seeing him in the "adult" position during D23. Maybe not too much chest bumping here (lol), but BC will be quite comfortable with all that! There's also nothing remarkable about people, former public schoolboys or not, joking with each other on a publicity tour. Good lord! What? No ones suggested there's anything remarkable about people joking with each other.
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Post by coolclearwaters on Jul 21, 2017 1:28:52 GMT
Really? It's just very ordinary publicity humor. Par for the course for these kind of events.
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Post by roverpup on Jul 21, 2017 12:10:37 GMT
If the type of humour that AM and BC employed during the interview "crash" was so ubiquitous, then why didn't more people recognise it for what it was? Why would anyone think that BC or AM were serious?
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