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Post by sgev1977 on Oct 17, 2017 21:39:51 GMT
Jeffrey Katzenberg was critizing Weinstein but has been identified as the producer who say a "nasty" quote about Ringwald after she decided to abandon Hollywood.
I just saw a The Guardian writer saying a media guy who is critizing Weinstein on Twitter harassed her!
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Post by coolclearwaters on Oct 17, 2017 22:25:30 GMT
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Post by sgev1977 on Oct 17, 2017 23:24:04 GMT
I am surprised how little SAG is mentioned in this case.
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Post by queenzod on Oct 18, 2017 0:22:30 GMT
The thing with bullies is that it’s very difficult to make them see their behavior is inappropriate. You have to be MORE aggressive than they are to get them to see, and that’s a lot of aggression. Most people aren’t capable of that level of aggression, so it goes unaddressed. Many of them don’t see anything wrong with what they’re doing and don’t actually believe they’re being aggressive at all.
My brother is a bully, he has been since forever, and he’s impossible to stop when he gets going. If I tell him he’s being too aggressive, it makes him more mad, and things get worse. It’s been really difficult.
I agree we shouldn’t just let that behavior pass, but it’s too difficult for people to address. It becomes not worth it. I don’t know what the solution is.
Sometimes (another of my Great Ideas, lol), I think we should just put aggressive men in a cage with a lion and let them fight it out. They don’t have an outlet for their testosterone.
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Post by sgev1977 on Oct 18, 2017 0:43:55 GMT
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Post by coolclearwaters on Oct 18, 2017 1:50:27 GMT
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Post by sgev1977 on Oct 18, 2017 2:35:00 GMT
It doesn’t surprise me. Press seemed to loved him at the time.As Manohla Dargis put it recently, he/Miramax was framed like David versus Goliath/traditional Hollywood.
Ironically I saw someone retweeted Rose McGowan accusing The Hollywood Reporter to be pro Weinstein and if someone asked my opinion, although based in pure speculation without any actual proof, I would say that recently Deadline seemed very close to him. Remember how we frequently posted interview with him talking about numerous projects on IMDb. Also their reporters seemed to have internal info (they were the ones who correctly predicted TCW would be screened at TIFF when other outlets were still saying Mary Magdalene was his award film of the year).
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Post by coolclearwaters on Oct 18, 2017 2:42:25 GMT
But according to that story, they loved because of a conflict of interest on the part of the then top man at Variety and because of advertising dollars. This guy supposedly rewrote stories and made it clear that negative articles about Miramax were not allowed.
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Post by sgev1977 on Oct 18, 2017 2:57:21 GMT
I should had put “loved” in quotation marks.
It seems it was his way of operate. He was very good in the way he promoted his movies so it doesn’t surprise me he offered those deals for favorable coverage. Actually Peter Biskind said he directly told him to abandon his project of writing about him and offered a deal for another book published by Miramax.
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Post by mllemass on Oct 18, 2017 5:57:21 GMT
I'm just remembering a presentation I had to do at work a few years ago. Every year, the department heads had to present their budget reports to the managers, showing where our money had been spent. They decided to try a different approach that year, and we department heads stayed in the meeting rooms while the managers came to us in groups of ten, and I repeated my presentation for each group. I had my PowerPoint ready and a package of charts, graphs and numbers for each manager to take with him of her.
The second group that came in the room was already rowdy before I began speaking. They were almost all men, and a couple of them were known for their juvenile "humour", which only other men seemed to find funny. I ignored their silliness and continued my presentation, but they would have none of that. They kept interrupting me to make sure that I was aware of what they were saying. I absolutely refused to politely laugh at their "jokes". I was determined to pretend I didn't get what they meant when they said they had a great "package". I was not going to even smile at any of it. I looked around the table and I was so disappointed by the "nice" guys who didn't join in but also did nothing to stop those jerks - I think that was the worst part. The entire time, the three women in the group looked straight down at the table, mortified. The woman seated next to me turned to me, shook her head, and mouthed "I'm so sorry".
I know that if I had attempted to put a stop to their behaviour, I would have been told to "lighten up", they were just having a bit of fun, and where's my sense of humour? So I just continued my presentation as though none of that was happening. The group that came in next was so nice and polite and appreciative, that I didn't bother giving that group of jerks another thought. Until today.
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