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Post by ellie on Feb 6, 2018 20:23:29 GMT
It’s why I loathe Meryl Steep. There she will be at the Oscars in her designer black dress showing how very much she cares about the sexual mistreatment of women. This, the woman who gave Roman Polanski a standing ovation at the 2003 Oscars and has publicly defended him on more than one occassion.
She and the host of other hypocrites now jumping on the #metoo support bandwagon make me sick. It’s easy to put on a black dress/suit and look very serious. Much more difficult to explain why the only thing you’ve ever previously done to address the situation was to publicly defend a child rapist.
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Post by sgev1977 on Feb 18, 2018 12:48:49 GMT
Is this some error or (*conspirancy theory* mode) intentional? Why is Fassbender slapping old ladies? Of course he has an antecedent of domestic violence and is much more widely known by modern audiences but here they are referring to mythical filmmaker Fassbinder! Also it seems they are ignoring the context of the quote. I don’t know it but it sounds very abstract. Could she referring to some scene and comparing it to the Tarantino “scandal”? Slapping, spitting and kissing are frequently real on screen. Tarantino himself did some of this stuff and when it was reveled people went crazy (*cough*Jessica Chastain*cough*) but both actresses “subjected” to it declared it was consensual and didn’t see it as abuse at all! |
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Post by ellie on Feb 18, 2018 15:45:22 GMT
I’ve seen the Michael Fassbender allegations resurface in a couple of places recently. Maybe there is an effort underway to tie him in to the present scandal. To be honest I have always had my suspicions about Fassbender. Just because that woman withdrew her claims doesn’t mean it didn't happen It wasn’t the first time his behaviour was questioned. Of course I don’t know for sure one way or the other - a gut instinct means nothing in court.
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Post by sgev1977 on Feb 18, 2018 16:02:33 GMT
Of course, we don't know for sure and she retracting her accusations is not proof of anything. Still it's amazing they haven't deleted that tweet after 4 hours!!! I checked and they corrected the article but the tweet is still there!
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Post by sgev1977 on Mar 7, 2018 0:46:10 GMT
Sad reaction of the day: people attacking Gary Oldman's son for writing a letter saying his father is innocent of the domestic violence accusations that he reportedly watched when he was a kid!
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Post by sgev1977 on Aug 22, 2018 3:01:47 GMT
Have you read about Asia Argento? 😬 There are a few opinion pieces saying this shouldn’t affect the movement and it shouldn’t but I’m sure it will! And this is happening because the so-called leaders and spokewomen (and spokemen) didn’t respected due process, judged equally minor stuff and serious crimes and, in general, painted things in black and white. Also people like Argento and Rose McGowan (who isn’t accused of anything!) are clearly unstable and tormented women who needed help but who never should be used as leaders.
The worst part is that it could also help Weinstein who, considering that at some point involved Israeli intelligence, I wouldn’t be surprised to know that he is also behind these revelations! I don’t know if you are reading about his trial but he was finally permitted to present e-mails that IMO completely damaged the case of one of his accusers. The woman is not just friendly after he supposedly abuse her but she asks for material and sentimental help, recommendations and even tell him she hoped for a deeper relationship with him beyond being just casual lovers. I don’t know. Maybe the relationship was abusive but he clearly has proof that she not just seemed happy with him but that she benefited from their relationship. At least she has some proof that there was indeed abuse and explains why she didn’t stop looking for him after it for years it seems she doesn’t have a case against him and her lawsuit could affect the cases of the other two women. Why she sued him in the first place with those antecedents?
In the case of Argento (who also had a romantic relationship with him after being abused but she at least admitted it. Still the nature of their relationship won’t help her with the new revelations), she says she didn’t have sex with the then (barely) underage guy even when both The New York Times and TMZ claim to have seen an incriminating photograph (the center of the lawsuit actually. She gave him the money and he gave her the photo’s copyright) and TMZ published text messages between her and Anthony Bourdain in which she seems to admit that she indeed had sex with him. She suggests he initiated it and that she was surprised. Maybe, just maybe it fists with the narrative of him being.... just someone interested in money expressed by her and an actor or someone verified on Twitter who said he knows him and claimed it since Sunday! But still it seems she indeed committed a crime according to LA laws and undoubtedly what she did is AT LEAST very amoral and it seems there are more proofs against her than a few of the male she helped to expose since last year! This shows how complex these things are! It’s not black and white and it’s tragic that some genuine accusations could be affected by things like this. They are losing the narrative and just because the activists didn’t admit that there are gray areas. There are always grey areas!
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Post by queenzod on Aug 22, 2018 6:42:21 GMT
Hollywood can be a sex swamp. This may be unpopular, but I can’t imagine that all the women HW abused were “victims.” Some of them did it, I’m sure, to get ahead. It happens. What a mess!
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Post by sgev1977 on Aug 22, 2018 11:39:31 GMT
It was always a complex matter and simplifications didn't help. That's why I believed George Clooney's statement: he knew how he was but he didn't knew it wasn't always consensual.
Stories like, for example, Anabelle Sciorra sounded awful and genuinely disturbing. Those stories shouldn't be forgotten.
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Post by sgev1977 on Aug 22, 2018 11:54:13 GMT
Wow! TMZ published one of the intimate photo and new text messages. I kind of believe her that she was blackmailed by the guy but it shows how complex these things are and that she wasn't mentally prepared to be a social movement's leader!
Also how those rats obtain those text messages?!
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Post by onebluestocking on Aug 22, 2018 18:24:05 GMT
Asia's story always sounded strange to me. If someone raped you, why date them for a long time afterward? She and Rose both seem messed up, and IIRC they are the only two actually accusing HW of rape? Other victims allege inappropriate touching, harassment, indecent exposure, etc. but not actual physical attack. Why would his approach be different with those two and not the hundreds of others? It's unfortunate that their issues reflect badly on the movement as a whole. It makes me really angry, TBH.
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