Post by sgev1977 on Jun 12, 2018 12:49:25 GMT
I suppose I could check the books to find out for sure, but I wouldn't know where to look because so much is told after it has happened. I'm thinking specifically of when
young Patrick finally tells his father to stop - that scene in the At Last episode that everyone wonders whether it really happened. In this article, Edward St Aubyn - talking about himself - says that he did that. He said he thought his father would kill him, but he got up his nerve one day and confronted him and the abuse did stop. I just don't remember a scene like that in the novels.
I'm not sure but I think it's in the books, too.
That's why I said it really happened but I liked the version that he imagined it like a survivor tactic and that's the impression the series gives because it's the ending but also because he actually said to Marianne that's what he would liked to said to his father if he would had talked with him about his feelings. It suggests he "changed his mind" (as his own son told him) to go on.
Also I think it's more casual in the books. I don't think he describes the scene. He just said he stopped it shorty after his mother leaft. I think another influence was that the father wasn't what he was by then. He was old. I think he describes how his young mother physically fought the old man and she won because by then she was physically stronger than him. I think he was 8 (in the book he is abused from 5 to 8) but the impression was that he was getting stronger meanwhile his father was getting weaker everyday. They continue their relationship as father and son until he become a teeneger, he also become much more verbally cruel than his father and he even achieves to hurt him. I think the "don't talk like that to your old man" is from that scene (which I think it's in the second book but I could be wrong). Of course in the series the kid still looked very vulnerable alongside Hugo Weaving. That's why the scene seems like a fantasy.
Also I think it's more casual in the books. I don't think he describes the scene. He just said he stopped it shorty after his mother leaft. I think another influence was that the father wasn't what he was by then. He was old. I think he describes how his young mother physically fought the old man and she won because by then she was physically stronger than him. I think he was 8 (in the book he is abused from 5 to 8) but the impression was that he was getting stronger meanwhile his father was getting weaker everyday. They continue their relationship as father and son until he become a teeneger, he also become much more verbally cruel than his father and he even achieves to hurt him. I think the "don't talk like that to your old man" is from that scene (which I think it's in the second book but I could be wrong). Of course in the series the kid still looked very vulnerable alongside Hugo Weaving. That's why the scene seems like a fantasy.
I could be mixing things, tho. I would try to check if it's on the books.