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Post by ellie on Mar 25, 2018 21:38:38 GMT
Sorry, I don’t get this at all. Is it a joke? :-)) Magda’s OP explains the premise of the show from which this snippet is taken RP.
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Post by sgev1977 on Mar 25, 2018 21:50:50 GMT
Yes, I know! I actually enjoy Ricky Gervais fighting with people on Twitter about random things but this guy didn’t look very funny and apparently he was attacking the fan who wasn’t actually involving with him! It seemed he was saying it was ridiculous to ignore him. I don’t know! Maybe she told him something before and later she tried to “control” the situation then I guess it’s fair game.
It’s not good idea even when they aren’t comedians! I still can’t believe that ridiculous theatre critic who almost destroyed her own career just to take “revenge” on BC’s fans for calling her when she did nasty comments about fans on Twitter! What a fool! But comedians are generally more smart than that and don’t get easily angry or offended so it should much more frustrating to fight them!
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Post by sgev1977 on Mar 25, 2018 23:54:59 GMT
As for “The Posh Boy Three” as BC, ER and TH are sometimes dubbed, it is generally agreed among media and critics that BC is “top dog”and ER, even though he’s the one with the Oscar, takes second place. TH, while successful, doesn’t seem to have the cachet of the other two and his reputation was not helped by that ridiculous episode with Taylor Swift which frankly made him look a bit desperate, was a gift to comedians and which he will take a very long time to put behind him. So I’d say poor old Tom is in for a fair bit more After the Quincy Jones (funny) debacle, The Guardian published an article about “some of the most jaw-dropping celebrity interviews ever”. I was surprised to find they included one with Tom Hiddleston. I read it and he was portrayed indeed as someone extremely desperate (the anecdote of him visiting the reporter the next day AFTER the interview ended to explain his relationship with Swift sounds really weird!). Still, it seemed slightly weird to find him in the list! I thought it would be more about clash of egos or really crazy wild stuff. Seems he is judged for being just a little too much nice and very eager to please everyone and their mothers. A little like Anne Hathaway a few years ago. www.theguardian.com/media/2018/feb/08/quincy-jones-said-what-star-interviews-that-got-us-all-talking
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Post by queenzod on Mar 26, 2018 2:05:44 GMT
I guess for me there has to be some hint of actual affection in the teasing and making fun of. That’s probably why I don’t understand it when someone just calls someone else a c*nt and that person just laughs.
I also find Ricky Gervais on Twitter kind of funny, as I did his Humanity tour, now playing on Netflix. I like his movies, but his stand up has always left me a bit cold. It has that mean streak in it whilst his movies and tv shows don’t.
I agree tho. Never taunt a comedian on Twitter. That’s just stupid. 😂
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Post by ellie on Mar 26, 2018 8:17:15 GMT
Just read the interview you linked to Sgev. I now see why he gets on people’s nerves. He’s just too full on with the OTT enthusiasm for everyone & everything. It sounds really false even though it may not be.
BC is definitely quite exuberant with his enthusiasm but he tempers it by being quite prepared to say things that will make him unpopular with some people. You get much more of a feeling of someone who is being themself rather than adhering to a PR strategy.
Tom is just too “try hard.”. And like Anne Hathaway, that tends to irritate people.
As for Eddie Redmayne, maybe it’s just that I’ve missed things, but aside from the odd appearance on Graham Norton he seems to have an incredibly low media profile. I’ve never seen a newspaoer or magazine interview with him and have no impression of what he’s like as a person.
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Post by roverpup on Mar 26, 2018 12:40:54 GMT
I just don’t think slagging on people is funny. I’m ho hum about TH and ER, but that kind of “humor” seems cruel to me. Ah, well... I’m with you QZ. I don’t think this is funny in the least (and I am not particularly a “fan” of ER or TH). I find this type of crass “humour” to be a “lowest common denominator” type of thing and just seems like someone getting cheap laughs by taking facile personal potshots at a person who they know next to nothing about. Doesn’t strike my “funny bone” at all, but I suppose it is true evidence that humour is subjective. :-))
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Post by sgev1977 on Mar 26, 2018 12:56:40 GMT
BC seems more sincere in that even when he most of the time is nice to everyone, he not suffer fools gladly, including or specifically journalists which in some occasions didn’t look like a good idea! And of course, he sometimes says or seems to say not very nice/politically correct things like his infamous: “F*ck the Politicians!!!” (That was great, actually! And surely it meant we don’t need them to resolve things we can do it by ourselves but without the context it sounded like well...just a “F*ck them!”). I think TH was actually involved in a similar scandal but people got angry at him not because he seemed rude or the political theme was divisive (as with BC standing for Syrian refugees after a play) but because they thought he was very “obviously” doing pr for himself using African kids: he used his GG winning speech to talk about his charity work. He did it in a nice polite way without using coarse words. He later apologized. I felt for him and Hathaway because, who knows! Maybe they are sincere. There are people like that in the real world! And they actually didn’t did anything wrong apart of trying to hard, of course.
ER is much more discreet but I also think there is not too much hysteria around him. He probably is the one with the best pr team and the most calculated career. He has been around for years slowly building a successful career. I mean he had all those little roles in Oscar baity movies before his big win so even when most people weren't familiar with him voters were. He is also friendly and nice like the others but I remember a few comments saying he was even “nicer” than BC during the Oscar campaign (BC didn’t visited the tabloid section of the press during The Hollywood Awards or was extra friendly with The Hollywood Press Association members during a lunch with them as was reported by a member: he literally said I prefer ER because both were nice but he was even nicer) and with his nerves and apparently shyness he seems much more sincere than TH.
But at the end of the day, we don’t know any of them so who knows!
Even with te comparisons I don’t even think they compete for a lot of the same characters. Maybe BC and TH but still I can’t see TH playing fathers yet. ER is much more delicate and young. Both BC and him did Hawking but BC did it years ago and even when they were both in potential Edison biographies, I can’t imagine ER playing Edison himself and well, it wasn’t his role.
I think BC maybe compete with TH for a few but also against people like Tom Hardy and Michael Fassbender. Maybe even against older people like McGregor or a few Americans (there was a rumor about him doing a movie Ben Affleck did)
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Post by ellie on Mar 26, 2018 13:46:17 GMT
I just don’t think slagging on people is funny. I’m ho hum about TH and ER, but that kind of “humor” seems cruel to me. Ah, well... I’m with you QZ. I don’t think this is funny in the least (and I am not particularly a “fan” of ER or TH). I find this type of crass “humour” to be a “lowest common denominator” type of thing and just seems like someone getting cheap laughs by taking facile personal potshots at a person who they know next to nothing about. Doesn’t strike my “funny bone” at all, but I suppose it is true evidence that humour is subjective. :-)) Well that is the point of “Room 101.” You pick four (I think) things you want to put in there (i.e) disappear forever and sometimes that’s people. Yeah the humour is harsh but it is often very funny. We didn’t see that clip in it’s entirety so we don’t know he expanded on his reasons and how the audience voted. I don’t know if it’s cultural or historic or some other reason but I do find that American humour is much “kinder” than European. We tend to have a much harder edge to our humour. And we tend to laugh at things that could sometimes be seen as harsh and inappropriate. It’s one of the reasons many of our comedy shows have to be remade for the US. Our humour just wouldn’t work in that market.
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Post by roverpup on Mar 26, 2018 14:15:45 GMT
I watch lots of British TV (through Netflix and Kodi) and I have seen a lot of comedy (or shows with humour in them) and I have found some of it to be very funny. I don’t mind humour with a mean edge at all - but it has to be “mean” with a purpose and I didn’t find this particular clip had any purpose - other than to be mean spirited. That’s what I don’t appreciate. Like I said, funny is subjective.
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Post by ellie on Mar 26, 2018 14:38:57 GMT
Well, like I said, we didn’t see the entire clip so I don’t know whether his elaboration on his purpose was funny or not. I did laugh at the idea of ER being “sent on” if Cumberbatch was injured though.
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