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Post by MagdaFR on Apr 21, 2018 0:20:21 GMT
Sgev1977 - I just noticed that it's a little anchor, and not an arrow, beside the name of some threads, including this one. Did you put it there? . It seems I'm putting little anchors everywhere but I don't know how or why! The arrow appears when you enable falling for a thread. Generally, threads are bumped when someone replies to them; if not, they fall. Sometimes, and I don't know why, they are set to fall. That means they don't got to the top even if they got lots of replies. In my case it happens when I write on the birthday greetings thread. To disable falling click on the wheel on the top right corner of the post.
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Post by sgev1977 on Apr 21, 2018 1:16:07 GMT
Thanks, Magda! The anchors disappeared in this and Graham Norton threads. I guess thanks to the replies. But I disabled a third post.
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Post by MagdaFR on Apr 21, 2018 2:53:47 GMT
When I looked there was just one which I disabled and bumped.
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Post by mllemass on Apr 21, 2018 4:51:14 GMT
So they're just making up nonsense to publish as news!
It doesn't help that Martin was misquoted in most of the headlines. He never said that making Sherlock wasn't fun anymore. It's clear that everyone involved with the show loved doing it. He was talking about the demands of the crazier fans. And don't forget that his ex, Amanda, became a target when she (Mary) came between John and Sherlock. Those fans saw her as ruining the show and preventing Johnlock from happening. So yes, Martin was much more aware of the demanding fans than Benedict was.
I also think that Martin may come across as all laid-back and cool, but he's much more worried about what fans think than Benedict is. I remember an interview when he said that fans wanted so much to hear about how he and Benedict hang out together outside of the show, but it just wasn't true. He said he hated to disappoint them.
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Post by sgev1977 on Apr 21, 2018 12:15:08 GMT
They think they are just like their characters so random things that BC said or did were interpreted as he was bothered by their fanfics/fanarts when Freeman saying sometimes not very different JOKES were considered as encouragement. But it should have been a awful to see the attacks to his ex by people apparently “inspired” by his comments about how much he loved slash! I remember when he said that brilliant thing about loving it when it was just fun but hating it when it was Stalinist, BC was there but I don’t remember he was asked or said anything about it. He wasn’t bothered at all! Again the one who was being affected by that particular theme in real life was Freeman and he clearly was trying to be kind but also put a limit to the harassment since then.
The DM and company are trying to fabricate some kind of conflict between them for years. They clearly aren’t the best friends in real life but they seem to get very well along on set at least in the behind scene materials. I remember that after the Syrian refugees thing, they asked Freeman about BC’s actions. I don’t remember the exact words but he was very moderate and intelligent and still the headlines were about him criticizing BC for speaking about themes he (supposedly) was an ignorant.
About they don’t be the greatest friends in real life and contrary to what people think about their personalities. It seems to me that BC is actually the “friendlier” of the two. Freeman has a very reduced number of entertainment types friends. Maybe I’m wrong but I think I read somewhere that was the case. He seems nice and friendly but I imagine he is the kind of person who has his own little circle of trusted friends and just prefer to be with them that going out to industrial things and make new friends. BC is the opposite. He knows and is friend of every actor, past or present, he meets! Everybody seems to personally knows him at least. And he hangs out with a lot of them. He also goes a lot to event, plays, award ceremonies, etc. (when he isn’t working!). People tend to think he is anti-social or introvert but he is not. Another example is the Cons. It’s clear Freeman is not interested in them and it’s very comprehensive meanwhile BC gladly do them when he has free time and still every time he is announced to one there are comments by people imagining he won’t be happy there or worried about how “someone like him” would react to fans! There are people out there who think he is really Sherlock and that Freeman is so laid back, open and nice like John!
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Post by sgev1977 on Apr 21, 2018 12:57:32 GMT
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Post by mllemass on Apr 21, 2018 17:52:03 GMT
It makes me want to scream! Every UK newspaper is re-posting this same ridiculous story. At no time did Benedict say that Martin was "pathetic", and yet that's what the headlines are saying. When he was asked if he agreed with Martin's comments about the demands of some fans, he said he wasn't aware of it. When the interviewer explained it, he said:
But they're wrong! He wasn't referring to Martin - he was calling the deluded fans "pathetic". He then went on to say that he doesn't engage with it as much as Martin does, so I guess it's easier for him to ignore it. He also made it clear, in that initial interview, that the creators and writers of the show don't listen to what the fans demand and they just make the show the way they want to make it.
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Post by sgev1977 on Apr 21, 2018 18:28:38 GMT
TBF it’s The Telegraph (the original source), the ones that made it sound like he was calling Freeman’s comments (not him!) “pathetic”:
And there is also the awful headline:
I’m not even sure if he is referring to fans there. The phrase actually fit the behavior of deluded fans but the context clearly says “bracing criticism to his co-star”. I wouldn’t be surprised if the phrase is taken out of context to create some polemic, tho. It’s actually a good article but it’s clear the author is searching for a polemic there. I’m still perplexed with that quote of BC defending “posh” victims of child sexual abuse. It seems the writer thought BC was saying something controversial there when it was him the one who looks like an idiot. He also dared to ask him about Weinstein. BC managed it pretty well, tho.
Of course, UK tabloids are running with it, we just needed to read The Telegraph’s headline to knew they will do it!
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Post by ellie on Apr 21, 2018 18:42:20 GMT
Oh well, that’s the tabloids for ya. I think BC & MF are neither friends nor enemies. They’re just colleagues on a job that they do every few years. Quite why there’s this bizarre media expectation that actors be BFFs with their co stars escapes me. Are journalists personal friends with all the colleagues they’ve worked closely with? I doubt it. Sometimes work colleagues become personal friends but mostly that doesn’t happen even though you may like them well enough. Working as an actor is just the same as working in an office in that respect. Probably more so as the nature of the work is such that you don’t spend much time in a job before moving on.
As for the silly clickbaity headlines, I’d hope BC & MF are experienced enough at this point to see them for what they are and pay them no heed.
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Post by mllemass on Apr 21, 2018 20:40:39 GMT
Another Italian interview, this time with Martin Freeman. At around 4:40 he is asked a question about the fan pressure on Sherlock. Martin, again, clarifies what he meant by his original comments.
I really hope that Benedict makes some kind of statement saying that he didn't call Martin pathetic. I know he usually ignores stuff that's printed about him, even if it isn't true, but I think he should make an exception in this case.
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