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Post by sgev1977 on Feb 16, 2022 12:44:27 GMT
I think he should find a way of avoid these questions. It’s clear that’s what BC is trying to do but, of course, it seems to me that BC’s heart is slightly more inclined towards the dramatic/artistic cinema (the joke he “didn’t wanted to say” about doing Marvel stuff only for money and the recent and wonderful quote about thinking Marvel/Sony people were drinking “too much Kool-Aid”). I mean he clearly respect the Marvel people but I think he also see them like mostly a business that permits him to do more daring stuff. Holland really looks more in love with the genre! Ironically, that’s also the case with Mark Ruffalo who actually has a very solid career outside Marvel but he is older and with a whole very strong trajectory behind him.
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Post by mllemass on Feb 16, 2022 13:12:32 GMT
I'm a bit shocked and disappointed in his response. They need to stop asking him about this. I agree! Why hasn’t someone coached him on what to say when he’s asked that question? He gave such a dumb answer! People go to movies to have a good time? I can guarantee that I would not have a good time watching that, A headache, maybe, but not a good time. Liking a movie and “having a good time” are not the same thing. I would never say I had a good time watching TPOTD, a movie I loved. There are other factors that would explain the big box office - like people bringing their children to watch what they figure must be a family movie, after being trapped at home for far too long. |
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Post by llminnowpea on Feb 16, 2022 13:41:19 GMT
after being trapped at home for far too long. I agree that the pandemic really played into the movie's success. People were itching to get out and feel normal. I'm not hating on Tom but it feels like the success has gone to his head a bit. He seems to think the box office and/or his echo chamber of millennials is the only measure of great cinema. He can be a fanboy of the genre, he can be proud of his success, but he shouldn't dismiss all other forms of cinema and certainly not insinuate that other filmmakers don't know what a successful movie is because they haven't been part of the MCU. It's arrogant and immature. Plus, he's done this how many times now? Once is a mistake, twice and he's a bit slow (like me), but every single time...that's his honest opinion (and sorry, it's bad manners).  The problem is that he seems to be insinuating that the only measure of success is $$$. That is only one measure. So, yeah, NWH and the other Marvel movies are really successful. For many, they are very fun (which is shown in the $$$). He isn't wrong - Endgame came before the pandemic and it made a shit ton of money, so that movie's ($$) success was definitely not just because people were bored at home. But, blockbusters aren't for everyone and other things can be successful without making a ton of money. They might be successful at getting people to think. Or, successful at teaching something. Or, just successful at making people forget their own lives for 2 hours as they are engrossed in their favorite movie of choice. But, by defining success his way, it narrows everything down and leaves a lot of things out. He is looking at the world with blinders on and it is too bad, but it isn't surprising - he is a celebrity that doesn't seem to have much desire to better himself (he doesn't seem to have a hugely curious mind, unlike BC). He is doubling down, just like a teenager (though, some adults do it, too). There is a place for quiet, beautiful, slow films. Just like there is a place for blockbusters. Maybe someday, he will realize this and realize what BC is talking about when he says he brings his all for every role and that every role and every type of movie he does matters - that it isn't just about the $$$. Today is not that day and I just wish he would shut the hell up already. |
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Post by queenzod on Feb 16, 2022 17:49:57 GMT
Oh, that’s too bad. He really is very young, isn’t he? And it sounds like he has not one lick of self reflection or inner thoughtfulness. He’s also too young to have developed any abstract thinking skills, so he’s going to spout idiocy when he answers questions like that.
Well, not everyone can be BC, can they?
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Post by mllemass on Feb 16, 2022 20:21:02 GMT
Here’s another way to look at the Tom Holland situation:
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Post by sgev1977 on Feb 17, 2022 11:12:25 GMT
I just saw this comment about TPOTD and I think it shows what it’s wrong with Tom Holland’s opinion about movies being only “entertainment”
It’s people that don’t want to film uncomfortable at all. They don’t want to feel challenged by a work of art!
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Post by MagdaFR on Oct 7, 2022 19:43:52 GMT
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Post by queenzod on Oct 7, 2022 21:58:01 GMT
Wow. Imagine having the cheek to write such an article, and bless GdT for speaking up! I find it almost laughable that Avengers Civil War is being held up against Goodfellas as a superior product regarding “profound” moral questioning. Someone needs to go back to school, and it ain’t Scorsese or del Toro. Thanks for sharing, Magda!
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Post by sgev1977 on Oct 8, 2022 0:04:48 GMT
I haven’t read it yet but I saw this…
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Post by sgev1977 on Oct 8, 2022 0:27:09 GMT
I read it and yeah, it’s pretty stupid. I thought that it could be just a clickbaity piece designed to provoke social media like the “women doesn’t understand Goodfellas” article but this seems to be serious. I think it’s just a dumb kid, tho. Someone who likes movies but that barely have watched good films. I genuinely laughed aloud when he said Raging Bull was bad filmmaking! He was also apparently trying to find moral messages in Taxi Driver!
I also found funny when he said the daring choice of pop romantic songs by Scorsese for his violent films didn’t make sense! Lol. That’s the point and that’s why you just don’t forget the combination. I guess it’s a little like when Alex DeLarge protests they are using his beloved Beethoven whole torturing him and Kubrick using Singing in the Rain for a scene of sexual violence in the same film. The innocent song changes its meaning forever.
But yeah, it shows how bad film criticism is nowadays. The first attribute of a good film critic is being a good writer. This person isn’t. And the second is understating that it’s not about saying what (you think) is good or bad but about interpreting films. This guy only makes a list of films by Scorsese and says this is good and that’s bad.
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