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Post by sgev1977 on Jun 28, 2023 13:13:40 GMT
About that letter and the video, I was thinking on how ugly has been Twitter about Fran Dresher. I mean maybe she is a traitor who works for the studios. I don't know! But after the video was published, a lot of posters attacked her for being positive about the negotiations without really knowing what it's on the table! The only solution for them seems to be a strike.
The day after Variety published an article saying that actually Dresher was very hard and was making clear to the AMPTP that they had to include protection for actors against AI and the streaming residuals (although they were proposing to use internet analytics sites to measure the popularity of a streaming show. Considering streaming companies refuse to show real numbers. That's an awful idea! They only would give more money to influencers/actors who don't actually attract general audiences!) What was the reaction of Twitter? Wishing it to be true but no one retracted their nasty opinions about Dresher!
Again, maybe the article was a lie and there's a huge conspiracy behind it but, if it's true and she is doing a good job while also publicly showing to be consiliatory (not a bad thing!), the letter seems to suggest that she doesn't really have the support of the powerful members of the guild. Again, a few days ago it was announced she will be the only candidate in their next election. They usually have two (one by SAG and other by AFTRA) and it usually gets ugly, supposedly the guild decided this because they want to show they are really united this time against the studios. The letter suggests another thing.
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Post by sgev1977 on Jun 28, 2023 23:52:52 GMT
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Post by sgev1977 on Jun 29, 2023 1:23:09 GMT
This is not a surprise, if true. It was rumored from days,
It says that the letter changed the mood, tho. From “rosy” to “complicated”. I don’t know if it’s good or not. Again, according to an earlier article that also claimed there will be an extension, the demands on the letter were already the main points in negotiations and what the SAG team was very insistent.
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Post by MagdaFR on Jun 29, 2023 16:38:33 GMT
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Post by sgev1977 on Jun 30, 2023 1:07:50 GMT
Here is a column about the effects of the strike on crew members,
Good for Ben Stiller and company!
This is similar to the opinion of the line directors that said they voted “yes” for the DGA contract because they are desperate and I have seen a few people echoing this feeling on Twitter, Very few, tho. The “right” opinion is not saying anything negative against the strike (and TBH, I think the important issues should be streaming and AI but the demand of hiring a minimum number of writers even when they aren’t needed and, some even say, when they don’t do anything but are there just to learn for professionals while they receive a paycheck is ridiculous and probably illegal. I don’t know if it’s true but someone said that USA law actually forbids guilds to demand not needed jobs). And that’s my big doubt, what not rich and famous actors think about a strike? I really hope they achieve the protections they need but apparently last time the writers went to a strike also ended in desperation.
Anyway, just read this very insensitive comment,
That’s the issue with “activism” nowadays! They actually don’t have empathy with real working classes.
And more frisson,
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Post by sgev1977 on Jun 30, 2023 11:14:46 GMT
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Post by sgev1977 on Jul 1, 2023 2:08:51 GMT
If someone is interested,
I read another article saying that some really wanted a strike and that’s what I find very perplexing. The strike should be the last resource! The writers one is already causing a lot of pain especially to the most humble entertaining workers. And if you read the results of their last strike on Wikipedia they only achieved one of their three controversial demands: some remuneration by the streaming networks! And that’s ironically one of today’s issues! It seems that specific demand quickly expired!
I’m not saying they would never go to strike but it seems some quarters really want the chaos that comes with it and decided that all guild leaders are traitors. But then why they voted for them?!
By the way, producers refuse to negotiate with the writers because they abandoned the negotiations table so they decided that they first would resolve the directos and actors contracts so it’s not on the writers but again, it’s perplexing to read that some of the writers and/or their allies really want the others guild to fail and extend their own strike.
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Post by sgev1977 on Jul 7, 2023 0:00:01 GMT
I would never say, people should attack this person instead of this other but I actually saw people defending Ryan Murphy when someone dared to say that Kim Kardashian wasn’t a writer and shouldn’t be accused of being a “scab” for working during the writers strike (yes, they thought she deserved it more than him!),
Also, I don’t doubt he was defamed in some way because the rhetoric by activists is very aggressive and over the top (again, they accused an actress of being a “scab” just because she is a hated female socialite involved in a lot of scandals!) but I don’t think it was a good idea to legally threatening this guy! I mean look what happened with the WB guy after he felt offended by an article and tried to retaliate! And Murphy is powerful but the WB guy is even much more powerful! And it didn’t matter, he and the magazine were the ones humiliated.
And, last, this seems to be another example of some division between powerful and not very powerful writers.
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Post by sgev1977 on Jul 7, 2023 0:32:36 GMT
I was also remembering how at the beginning of the strike WGA explicitly said that showrunners were absolutely banned to work even if it wasn’t as writers. Tony Gilroy was shamed for saying he planned to work only as showrunner. He later retracted and publicly announced he wouldn’t do any work at all.
Even there was some polemic around “Eric” which was ending its shooting in New York. Some activists discussed with fans when they said it was a British production and it wasn’t under the WGA jurisdiction. It was later confirmed that fans and not the writers on Twitter were right when a group of them tried to protest it and the WGA told them that they were UK artists so not under their American contract (Also clearly the British system is very different! I mean the WGA is actually fighting for a minimum of writers when in the UK, it’s mostly about the lone “auteur” scriptwriter! As someone said, “written by a committee” is an offense for something! But apparently having more than one writer is something very common in the USA)
Anyway, I hope that if SAG go to strike they design a better plan than the writers and clearly explain what actors could and couldn’t do so you don’t have social media warriors attacking some with the guild blessing and then later having the guild itself defending the powerful guy for doing exactly the same thing for which others were reprimanded.
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Post by sgev1977 on Jul 10, 2023 20:51:39 GMT
Well, things are getting interesting!
I hope things get resolved quickly and both actors and writers could get a fair contract. And that crew members don't get affected much more.
I'm sure, that contrary to writers, producers would want to resolve things quickly with SAG.
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