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Post by mllemass on May 30, 2024 15:08:40 GMT
I’ve watched the first episode. So far, so good! If Benedict wasn’t in it, I’d definitely want to see more anyway.
I wish I could just spend the rest of the day watching it, but I keep being interrupted by life! Ha!
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Post by mllemass on May 30, 2024 19:27:34 GMT
I just finished episode 3, so I’m half-way through! I hope the rest continues to be this good.
I’m sure that Benedict drunk-dancing to Gloria isn’t really supposed to be entertaining, but I still loved it. And I loved that they played Gloria again through the end credits, so I made sure to watch the credits this time instead of going quickly to episode 4.
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Post by mllemass on May 30, 2024 22:17:33 GMT
I just finished it. How on earth could anyone give this a negative review??
I just might watch it all again, since Netflix hasn’t given us Patrick Melrose like they did in the US.
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Post by sgev1977 on May 31, 2024 2:22:26 GMT
I moved your posts, mllemassI watched the first two episodes and I really liked them. They are pretty entertaining with a wonderful ambientation. It really looks and feels like an old 1980s if not 1970s movie! BC and Gaby Hoffman are sublime. Supposedly, Belcher performance is very moving but I guess that happens in later episodes because I kinda find him slightly off if not expressionless. He is a good company, I guess, and we spend a lot of time with him maybe that’s why some felt disappointed when they discovered that the “mystery” isn’t that relevant! I think I guessed what happened to the kid… since I read the description of the characters when the project was first announced, by the way. It clearly seems is going there! lol It has a lot of characters but that was also the case with The Wire. Actually, there were much more in The Wire! lol Until now, I’m cool with that but if the conclusion is what I think then yeah, the policeman isn’t actually doing anything related with the main case! We will see! The characters that I didn’t liked were Vincent’s parents. They are evil cartoons! That was silly and was disappointing considering the complexity of BOTH Vincent and Cassie. They are both very flawed characters and I loved that. Vincent clearly has an alcohol problem but it’s not the monster that Roeper said he was. Especially, considering that there is also mental health issues involved. (His co-workers are very nasty to him, actually! I mean, maybe he is an asshole because likes to make fun of powerful people on their faces and could be extremely rude when he gives admittedly the correct criticism to his co-workers ideas but blaming someone for the disappearance of his son on his face as reaction to that criticism it’s actually next level asshole! C’mon! He isn’t the villain there! So yeah, they also doesn’t seem nice people and at least Vincent has the excuse that he has mental health issues! And talking about it, I guess Eric could be a shock for some but if you are open minded to the eccentric element, it shouldn’t be a problem as it shouldn’t be a problem that there is a lot of character if you are patient and put attention! In other words, it’s well managed and, until now. I don’t see any tone discrepancies. I love Clarke Peters, too! Not a huge character and a suspect with a very dark past but he just exudes warmth. It’s easy to see why both Edgar and Vincent are very fond to him.
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Post by queenzod on May 31, 2024 3:23:23 GMT
I finished it, but I have to watch it again with subtitles. Plus, I fell asleep part way thru the 4th ep and into the 5th. 🤦🏻♀️ I think I missed some bits. It was rather warm here today and I always have trouble staying awake in the afternoons because I sleep poorly at night due to various pains. I’m often up until 4 am and then my carers come between 8 and 9 to get me up so not enough sleep. Otherwise I wouldn’t have the NERVE to fall asleep in a BC performance. I’d get drubbed out of the fandom, lol.
It was a little too gritty for me, I admit. I do not like urban based stuff. I’ve got no connection to it and all that suffering humanity, corruption, filth, and crime is too much for my soft little heart.
Ben was wonderful! His accents were spot on, and I detected a slightly more New York accent in Eric than in Vincent, but wow, the things he can do with his voice. Eric’s voice was even deeper than Tietjens and that’s saying something,
I didn’t quite follow what the detective uncovered with those boys and what they were going to do with Edgar, probably because I missed some of it. But that’s ok. I’ll pick it up on a rewatch.
I also didn’t understand that whole “Fight Club” business underground near the end, but maybe another watch with captions will sort that out for me.
I still think it was a bit uneven. Some parts could have been tightened or deepened up with other parts (notably the ending), a tad less cheesy. Still, another great piece to add to BC’s oeuvre.
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Post by mllemass on May 31, 2024 6:55:27 GMT
I wouldn’t change a thing! It all came together at the end and all the storylines were connected.
Vincent got his nastiness from his awful parents, and eventually acknowledges that so that he can begin to change. I was remembering one interview where Benedict said he was nervous during a screening because the other characters came across as”warm” while Vincent didn’t. But he was wrong. Benedict is a terrific actor, and he’s great at playing mean, but there’s something about him that could never make the audience dislike him. I actually disliked Cassie for a long time!
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Post by queenzod on May 31, 2024 8:08:27 GMT
I’m trying to remember where I’ve seen the actress who played his awful mother before, but I can’t place her. They were terrible people! No love, only gain, blame, and criticism. No wonder he was so acerbic and couldn’t connect with others for the longest time.
I also didn’t like Cassie for a while, too. She seemed angry and cold. But then the story started coming out so yes of course she was angry and we got to see how much love she had for her child and that all turned around in my head.
I did love the dancing scene, especially when they were doing that forward/backward thing. Ben is such a good dancer!
Maybe I liked it more than I thought, lol.
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Post by sgev1977 on May 31, 2024 9:34:30 GMT
The mother is played by Phoebe Nicholls who usually plays… BC’s mother in different things! lol She played Stephen Hawking’s mother in Hawking and more recently Louis Wain’s mother in Louis Wain. I think this is the third time they work together and obviously playing mother and son. But this is the first time she is bad mother! She usually is a nice one! lol
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Post by queenzod on May 31, 2024 9:38:42 GMT
She reminded me of Blythe Danner’s character in Patrick Melrose. Snobby, horrible, rich person.
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Post by sgev1977 on May 31, 2024 10:23:32 GMT
I think Danner was very funny in that role but in this case the character was taken very seriously and she ended like a one dimensional cartoon. A few of the supporting roles are like that and it’s a shame because the main ones are so complex and beautifully played.
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