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Post by MagdaFR on Apr 1, 2018 17:55:56 GMT
The reviewer is a she. A super BC fan, a Sherlock fan, a johnlocker (who hated S04) and wrote recently threads about MFreeman's comments and queer-baiting. She was predicting CMBYN for best actor and best film. I think you nailed her, mllemass. She writes essentially about tv shows, Marvel movies and anything BC related. It's true that you come to know more about a character on a tv series and also, there are very good series. I get why TCiT wasn't easy for her.
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Post by sgev1977 on Apr 1, 2018 18:12:07 GMT
I think she is not used to watch certain kind of movies. She blames the script but there are a lot of, well, artistic movies that doesn’t have straightforward scripts like most Hollywood movies does. I even remember an article by New Yorker’s Richard Brody in which he claims (traditionally) great scripts don’t do great movies because movies aren’t about telling stories with words but with images. Of course, this is “just” a TV movie but part of the pleasure is that it doesn’t explicitly tell the story with just words. Also yes, it’s beautifully symbolic if not abstract. More interesting for me was that she had “a feeling of deep unsettlement and confusion” as to why BC’s production company would have included something like Charles’s subplot! I doubt she has read the book or is familiar with McEwan’s work because the writer is totally about unsettling and confusing situations and characters. She doesn’t have to read it, of course! But it helps to know the nature of the source to understand the reasons behind decisions. I agreed that it’s the most unsatisfactory aspect of the movie though maybe for the opposite reasons. I think they kind of softened the character when they decided not to show the sexual aspect of his perversion( in the book, the photos they show to the prime minister are not of him playing like a boy in the woods but of him dressing like a child in company of prostitutes Still it’s not an easy theme, very difficult to adapt and as a sub-plot the shocking aspect of it would have steal too much time to the main plot. Probably if the movie would have been longer. So she doesn’t need to worry! BC is not the pervert. Ian McEwan is!!! 😉 Although I guess he had to explain why he is a fan of such a sick individual! As a fan myself, I would said I kind of enjoy when writers challenge me and made me feel unsettled and confused about my worldview. But that’s just me! EDITED: I just saw Magda post so it’s “she” instead of “he”, sorry!
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Post by sgev1977 on Apr 1, 2018 21:37:25 GMT
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Post by mllemass on Apr 1, 2018 23:33:13 GMT
I was just checking the tv listings, and my local PBS station is going to repeat TCIT next Saturday. It might get more viewers when it's not competing with Jesus Christ Superstar on Easter Sunday!
And, a few weeks ago I switched my cable tv service to digital, which gave me a few more channels - including another PBS station! This one is out of Detroit, and they're actually repeating TCIT tonight, at 1:00 a.m. I will be staying up to watch it again!
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Post by sgev1977 on Apr 2, 2018 0:51:29 GMT
Yes, it seems most of the Americans I follow are talking about a Jesus Christ Superstar right now! Good or bad those musicals are huge events at least on social media. I remember when everyone was making fun of Sound of Music and especially Peter Pan but still they were all watching them! Also Jesus Christ seems more interesting that the other two. I mean John Legend and Alice Cooper!
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Post by kreizimam on Apr 2, 2018 1:23:10 GMT
I can't understand it. Why is it so confusing for some people? Anyway, I think they could have dressed BC a bit different to help people figure the different years. I's not typical strightforward loss child tragedy drama. I get the luxury to read some of you guys discuss the book here and I still find it hard. If I'm just a casual happened to see it I probably get confused too.
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Post by kreizimam on Apr 2, 2018 1:38:19 GMT
The movie is not easily accessible for the general audiences: it’s not a straight story, more slow burn European cinema style than typical BBC One prime time material, magical realism, etc. Still, it’s one of my favorites things he has ever done. It’s not perfect: the Charles plot was very difficult to adapt and they kind of sanitized the perversion part. But it’s really beautiful and delicate. Yes.
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Post by sgev1977 on Apr 2, 2018 2:00:15 GMT
Probably the people who said this is a “vanity project” are until certain degree right. Probably something like this wouldn’t have been green lighted in the BBC with another actor but of course I’m EXTREMELY happy this is the kind of the “vanity projects” he wants to do! Hopefully the next time it would be done for cinema where probably something like this belong. This is actually one of the first things made by StudioCanal for TV and it actually totally feels like a StudioCanal film.
I’m happy he is taking risks and is using his Marvel fame to do complex and unconventional TV series and hopefully movies with very adult themes. IMO that’s the right way. I was originally worried he would go all Robert Downey Jr. or Chris Pratt and work only in big Blockbusters.
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Post by mllemass on Apr 2, 2018 2:37:39 GMT
It just finished. I know I've seen it before, but it's not hard to follow at all! I still think that anyone confused was not paying attention.
But I'm so angry that stupid PBS cut at least one scene, and maybe more! I figured they would clean up the language - which they did - but why remove scenes? It was supposed to be 90 minutes, but it was actually shorter than that. The filled the rest of the time slot with Masterpiece promos.
This is going to bug me because now I'm going to try to remember any other scenes they didn't show.
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Post by sgev1977 on Apr 2, 2018 2:49:20 GMT
Which scene they cut? I’m glad I pre-ordered a PBS DVD that clarifies it’s the “UK version”. I’m guessing they delated Stephen Campbell Moore nude!
I think all the clues are there on the screen but not everyone watch movies in the same way and accessible popular movies tend to be very explanatory so most people don’t necessarily care for details on screen.
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