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Post by sgev1977 on Apr 3, 2018 0:38:16 GMT
She is actually very complimentary to his performance but yes, I’m perplexed she thinks he needed some extra glamour in that scene. It was painfully real and raw!
I don’t think she understood half of the plot (again, he wrote a “horrible parody novel”?) so it should had been very difficult to write a recap of it.
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Post by queenzod on Apr 3, 2018 2:26:29 GMT
And, she misspelled “lose.” Loose. Argh!
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Post by sgev1977 on Apr 3, 2018 2:40:48 GMT
Thinking about it, she and other could say it’s easy for people who actually knew the novel beforehand and probably it’s true (although I think the handbook is quickly explained in the series). You shouldn’t need to read a book to understand the adaptation but I’m kind of nostalgic for critics I read when I was a kid. They seemed to know everything about the context of the films! Seriously, they always seemed to have read the books or knowing about antecedentes of everyone involve with the films (why someone would think Ian McEwan would had written a procedural? For the matter included a typical happy ending?). Months ago I was reading this book with Pauline Kael short New Yorker reviews and she was kinda of cruel but also extremely well-documented (I didn’t read her when I was a kid. I read local critics) so I remembered how much admired those old reviewers. Now it’s more democratic and the fact that we can read a blog posts by random persons says everything but in the old times you kind of learned stuff when read reviews! Now I feel the urgency to explain them the plot!
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Post by Glow Worm on Apr 3, 2018 4:24:09 GMT
“Ugly crying” is a common slang term that has been used for several years to describe a certain kind of crying. For instance, Viola Davis is often said to excell at “ugly crying”. I don’t think it’s meant as an insult.
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Post by queenzod on Apr 3, 2018 6:56:27 GMT
Shadowlands The Yearling Old Yeller Little Women
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Post by roverpup on Apr 3, 2018 10:55:34 GMT
Thanks for the definition. But one question - if it wasn’t an insult then why say “horrendously”. Shouldn’t the writer have said BC was an “excellent” ugly crier? Or that he excels at ugly crying?
Or is the adjective “horrendously” in this context also a compliment?
To me it’s a very awkward way of writing and honestly, I have more of a problem interpreting this “review” than I did TCiT!
:-))
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Post by sgev1977 on Apr 3, 2018 11:33:53 GMT
She is very flattering in general about his performance but there is something awkward with the “horrendously”:
Maybe it wasn’t her intention but it sounds like a negative comment. It sounds like she wanted something more “esthetic”.
BC REALLY cries in his performances. He and all his co-workers have said it so in certain way, he is Method about it. Reportedly, he really lost control in that scene at the end in TIG. He was ashamed about it, tho.
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Post by mllemass on Apr 3, 2018 12:09:30 GMT
I always thought of "ugly cry" as when some people can cry and look really pretty, and others - like me - get a puffy face and red eyes. I look terrible for at least an hour after I've cried. But some people's faces don't change at all, other than the tears.
Even if you agree with Urban Dictionary's definition, it still wouldn't apply to Benedict in TCIT. There's a level of embarrassment in this kind of crying - losing control - that makes others uncomfortable. But why would crying alone be "horrendously ugly" when there's no one there to see it? Benedict was alone when he cried - the camera doesn't count as a character, so there was nothing ugly about it. The comment was absolutely meant to be insulting, as in "He shouldn't be crying on camera". But we know that he's very talented has lots of crying styles!
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Post by queenzod on Apr 3, 2018 12:34:30 GMT
Maybe she’s confusing her discomfort at the scene with his performance. That scene was brutal, and yes, very uncomfortable to watch. That was the point. It was done amazingly.
For the record, I didn’t find it ugly at all, much less horrendously ugly. I thought it was beautiful.
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Post by onebluestocking on Apr 4, 2018 19:51:55 GMT
I'll confess I missed all of that. It seemed like the committee was discussing controversial childrearing techniques (one criticizing working mothers, one saying children shouldn't be exposed to literature, etc.) but I forgot that Charles was on it. And then, I couldn't see what the purpose of the meetings, or the thing they wrote, could be. Who is going to follow a government booklet to raise their children? Why would a book publisher be chosen to write it, and not a child psychologist or whatever? Why meet with all of the "experts" after the handbook is already written? I may have understood if I read the book first.
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