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Post by sgev1977 on Jan 6, 2018 2:33:17 GMT
This kid is playing Robert (double). So I guess there is also another boy playing Robert. kids.mandy.com/uk/actor/profile/harrison-colesRobert is Patrick’s oldest son. He is also supernatural bright. Probably the kind of kid Patrick would be if he would had good parents.
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Post by sgev1977 on Jan 10, 2018 11:31:56 GMT
We have our Princess Margaret!
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Post by ellie on Jan 10, 2018 17:23:24 GMT
I love Harrier Walter as an actress but I don’t see her as Princess Margaret. She is the total opposite to her physically.
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Post by sgev1977 on Jan 10, 2018 18:52:11 GMT
A direct link to her CV: www.hamiltonhodell.co.uk/talent/harriet-walter/cv/television-168/It's surprising! As my past posts said, I was sure it was Celia Imrie's role! Anyway she is excellent so I'm sure she would be alright in the role! Also I think the guy who plays Cousin Henry is her husband. It's funny because we discovered he was in it months ago!
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Post by ellie on Jan 10, 2018 19:08:27 GMT
I’ve been watching The Crown and the actress who plays the young Princess Margaret in that is miscast from a physical perspective too. Like Harriet Walter, Vanessa Kirby is tall, slender and with quite angular features. Which jars somewhat when you have scenes with other characters describing Margaret as being “short” and “dumpy” with “fat ankles.”.
These are unkind but true descriptions of the real princess and things that were actually said about her. They’re also importsnt as they have a bearing on her personality and marriage to Lord Snowdon ( who frequently taunted her about what he perceived as her physical shortcomings).
But all this sounds a bit bizarre when the character is being played by an actress who looks nothing like that description.
Surely there’s some excellent shorter, rounder actresses out there more suited to the role?
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Post by roverpup on Jan 10, 2018 20:11:04 GMT
I get what you are saying but I have been watching The Crown and honestly I never thought the dialogue about Margaret and the actual looks of the actress was anything to note. The use of that actress isn’t jarring for me at least. She seems to have the “attitude” down pat as far as I remember about that particular princess from stories from that day and age.
Sometimes actors don’t have to look anything like the people they are supposed to be portraying. Case in point -
Some people complained that BC wasn’t a wise choice for Sherlock because he just didn’t fit the physical description in the facial features (especially the nose). Didn’t BC’s own mum think he wasn’t a natural fit for Sherlock because of it?
To me (and I have watched a lot of interpretations of Sherlock down through the ages) whenever people tried to get the looks right about Sherlock it never did the trick. But the minute I saw BC on screen as Sherlock... he was the Sherlock of my imagination (from my childhood spent reading the stories) right from the get-go because he had the “aura” of Sherlock which was the missing ingredient for me with all the other film/TV versions of my fav detective! It was everything about the way he said things, more than anything about his physical appearance. I just love the fact that M&G (and company) decided to go with someone who could act Sherlock instead of someone who looked like the classic interpretation of Sherlock was supposed to be.
I would hate to think of the results if they boxed themselves in with selecting a BBC Sherlock from actors who only fit the ACD description of him with his long, thin, hawk-like nose; heavy-set, bushy eye-brows; a high pitched sounding voice and thinset lips. BC wouldn’t have stood a chance at getting the part.
As well, one of my all time favourite portrayals is Anthony Hopkins as Richard Nixon and he didn’t look anything like RN but his portrayal of him is eerily Nixon like in every respect except looks (and I believe I am watching Tricky Dick when I view that movie!!!). Once again AH had this Nixon aura about him that went past any physical dissimilarities. He just was Richard M. Nixon!
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Post by ellie on Jan 10, 2018 20:27:55 GMT
I think the difference is that, firstly, Sherlock Holmes did not actually exist, secondly his physical appearance had no particular influence on his character and thirdly, the scripts for Sherlock did not have Watson talking about Sherlock’s “aqualine nose.”
Princess Margaret was a real person. And her physical appearance had a fair bit to do with her life story, not least her volatile marriage to Tony Armstrong Jones who used jibes about her weight, height and general appearance to taunt and undermine her.
So in Princess Margaret’s case, yes, I think it would be appropriate if somebody with a reasonable physical resemblance to her was cast. In other cases that does not follow. How much an actor needs to look like the real life person they’re playing really depends on how much that person’s appearance is relevant to their story. Nixon’s story had no relation to his appearance.
Likewise the actor who played George VI in The Crown looked nothing like him, nor does the actress playing the Queen Mother look remotely like her. But that doesn’t matter either.
In the case of Princess Margaret it does. In my opinion.
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Post by sgev1977 on Jan 11, 2018 0:24:44 GMT
I just saw this on Instagram by a Hollyday Grainger fan. http://instagram.com/p/BdvdxL7n7dr I think the woman in a light blue dress is Harriet Walter characterized as Princess Margaret. The hair kind of looks like the style she used to wear in the 90s. I don’t know if she will wear heavy makeup and prosthetics as Oldman in his new movie and Hopkins when he played Nixon but at least the hair and pose seems right (although I’m not a specialist in royals nor British! I’m just talking from hazy memories from that time!). There are prosthetic specialists people credited on IMDb but it’s clear BC is using some in the trailer during Patrick’s alcoholic days: his face looks very rounded in the scene with Blythe Danner for example.
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Post by sgev1977 on Jan 13, 2018 15:28:26 GMT
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Post by sgev1977 on Jan 16, 2018 3:01:05 GMT
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