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Post by sgev1977 on Mar 9, 2021 15:36:30 GMT
I have seen now two tweets claiming that they are surprised that Alan Dershowitz was not Allen's lawyer and a third one concluding he was Allen's lawyer (and because that, definitely guilty) after someone posted an article about his involvement in the case! That's how uninformative this documentary is!
Dershowitz was Mia Farrow's lawyer. He isn't mentioned in the documentary at all probably because his bad fame (they also "forgot" to say Polanski directed Rosemary's Baby, for example) but also because it totally contradicts the "narrative" that Allen's lawyer was so powerful that could manipulate everything and everyone meanwhile Farrow was a powerless woman without enough resources to defend herself against people like them.
Dershowitz was also involved in an anecdote that kind of help Allen's case. Allen's lawyers accused him of wanting to blackmail Allen. He was called to testify about it under oath! He denied that they asked for a few millions for Farrow in exchange of making disappear the allegations, of course, but he admitted he was hired to maintain everything private by Mia and that both things, the money (for the kids support and Mia's years working with him) and they all wanting to "help" Allen to make the police stop the investigation was discussed. Allen reaction was to make everything immediately public and suing Farrow for the sole custody of the kids. In the documentary, they claim Allen made that press conference to manipulate the public "falsely" saying he was in love with Soon-Yi (they have been married for almost 30 years!) and distracted them from the allegations (which he also made public!). The custody lawsuit is portrayed as a cruel defensive move against the criminal investigation.
Dershowitz is still saying that his client (Farrow) was saying the truth and has defended Ronan Farrow, too but he also frequently calls Allen a "fool" and "idiot" for rejecting his, well, non-disclosure deal with Mia! Except that contrary to Weinstein and others who signed things like this to "silence" their victims, this was proposed by the "offended" part and the "perpetrator" was so scandalized by such proposal that immediately went to tell everyone about it!
Again, I'm not saying he is innocent but the case is much more complex that how it's portrayed by HBO and the American media. Yes, some of the criticism to the two investigation in the last episode sounds convincing (other probably are a little in the conspiracy theory realm) but at the end it couldn't be definitive because nothing is weather against the other side version of events and inconvenient facts are just erased from history.
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Post by sgev1977 on Mar 15, 2021 18:22:00 GMT
I finished the Allen-Farrow documentary and well, I think Dylan is deeply hurt and damaged by the actions of her both parents and clearly one or both of them abused her. The documentary just does a huge disservice to her. It's not just one-sided but also full of half-truths (if not lies), manipulative and sensationalist.
It achieved her purpose, tho. People on social media are convinced Allen is a monster and this will continue... until the next round because again this wasn't something definitive. It can't be if you don't include not necessarily to the accused person but at least his point of view in a sincere decent way.
Actually, I felt so bad a few weeks ago for being so cynical about this, that I actually bought and read Mia Farrow's autobiography to try to understand her better! I actually enjoyed the book and even when she doesn't present Allen's version (it's her personal book so it's alright but it's unforgivable in a supposedly investigative documentary!), she at least doesn't negate her friendship with Polanski, for example! One of the most WTF moments in the last episode is when they seem to denounce Hollywood for being complicit in protecting Allen and other famous accused celebrities (they centered on those actors who are still in friendly terms with Allen) and then spend a fragment of it on Polanski and people like Tarantino defending him! Tarantino said something stupid once about the case! Mia Farrow testified in favor of him in a defamation trial decades after she herself accused Allen of abusing her own child! She, of course, wasn't shamed as people like Diane Wiest or Diane Keaton or Javier Barden or Alec Baldwin! They also briefly show Alen Dershowitz during some interview but they don't say he was Farrow lawyer or that he offered in name of her, a deal to Allen in which he could had avoided nor just the investigation but also the bad publicity and that Allen didn't accepted it. He is just there doing an interview defending his old client, Farrow, but he didn't say any word, of course, because the suggestion seems to be he was on Allen's side like all the other "evil" people there. A very manipulative move.
In another theme, I also watched the acclaimed documentary about Polanski after someone said something like that it would had been much better if they did something like about Allen instead of the series. IMHO it's actually too much sympathetic to him. I don't doubt the judge was a clown who was more interested in being the protagonist that making justice but I also don't think a random abuser would had obtained the deal Polanski got after it's was obvious the defense could easily demonstrate that he indeed raped the girl. If anything that documentary shows how things have changed and how hypocritical is Hollywood and mass media! It was also produced by HBO and guess what? Mia Farrow is one of the talking heads there, speaking fondly of her dear friend Roman!
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Post by sgev1977 on Aug 17, 2021 1:54:24 GMT
Wow! This is insane
They are already lynching him but hidden in this article is the fact that Dylan wasn’t in the USA during the period this woman says she was abused! Actually there is a super famous documentary about his whereabouts during exactly those two months in 1965! He was in the UK doing gigs with Joan Baez and shooting Don’t Look Back, you know the mythical film by D. A. Pennebaker!
Now how the lawyers just proceeded with it?! They easily will lose but his reputation is already tarnished!
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Post by sgev1977 on Aug 17, 2021 2:09:30 GMT
And it seems he wasn’t at Chelsea hotel since March!
The lawsuit mentions she has medical problems (as a consequence of the allegedly abuse) and I don’t want to offend anyone but I’m wondering if maybe she isn’t 100% right. But again, what were thinking her lawyers? I mean if you want to go against someone so powerful and popular at least do a little research! That documentary and that UK tour are just mythical!
EDITED The ironic part is that it’s not very difficult to believe that any westerner musician had a sexual relationship with a teenager especially in the 70s because the groupies phenomenon but this lawsuit is mad and it make me questioning the intelligence of the lawyers!
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Post by sgev1977 on Oct 8, 2021 14:02:59 GMT
I remember that! That's one very extreme example of the horrible behavior of the Hollywood Foreign Press members and ask the question about why they were tolerated all this time.
It’s surprising, tho., that the official version is that they were "canceled" because not being diverse enough and not made the effort of including diverse nominees when last year they were much more diverse than the Oscars! Lol I think Hollywood just took advantage of some uninformed social media campaign and destroyed something they were already fed up with!
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Post by llminnowpea on Dec 22, 2021 16:46:31 GMT
So many allegations!
The Chris Noth ones - I remember following him as an actor back in the late 1990s and there were some not so nice articles about him way back then, too. Nothing like this, but they did not paint him in a good light then, either.
The Bryan Singer ones have been around for awhile, as have the Joss Whedon ones.
These stories just tell me that Hollywood is seriously messed up and it is best to remember that everyone is human, not some perfect celebrity who should be placed on a high pedestal.
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Post by mllemass on Dec 22, 2021 17:18:30 GMT
Constantly targeting victims young enough to be your children/grandchildren doesn’t make you human, though. It makes you a child molester - even if your victims are over 18. I don’t care if it’s “consensual” - there can’t be consent when there’s an imbalance of power.
Once everyone involved is over 40, maybe it’s not as disgusting. Otherwise, yuck!
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Post by llminnowpea on Dec 22, 2021 19:12:52 GMT
Constantly targeting victims young enough to be your children/grandchildren doesn’t make you human, though. It makes you a child molester - even if your victims are over 18. I don’t care if it’s “consensual” - there can’t be consent when there’s an imbalance of power. Once everyone involved is over 40, maybe it’s not as disgusting. Otherwise, yuck! Oh, yes! Agreed there. I just meant that fans seem to think these people never do any wrong and, well, they are people. Some are terrible and some are not.
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Post by mllemass on Dec 23, 2021 16:37:12 GMT
Ugh - James Franco! Another one of those celebrities whose supposed charm let him get away with anything. I was just thinking about him the other day. I was remembering that scandal where he got involved with an underage girl he met online. I remember his excuse at the time, saying that he thought she was “older”. And I remember yelling at my tv “Did you think she was 35? Because you’re 35!” No, he thought she was 18, because that would have made it all just fine.
Now he has a sex addiction, so the poor guy needs therapy and treatment and our sympathy, No, the guy has a list of things he has to do before more allegations become public, so that he can regain his career.
I just don’t feel very sympathetic towards some people!
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Post by roverpup on May 13, 2022 11:05:44 GMT
All of what you said above and I might add it also is a bit much that these right wing newspapers keep using the word "star" with her name, as in "Doctor Strange STAR Zara Phythian" or "Phythian STARRED alongside Benedict Cumberbatch in 2016 film Doctor Strange".
She wasn't (and isn't) a STAR! And she didn't STAR alongside BC in DS! She was a bit player in the movie, didn't even have a character name and was credited as "brunette zealot" in the film.
She wasn't a thespian - she was hired because she was a martial arts expert. I don't think she even had any lines!
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