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Post by coolclearwaters on Apr 14, 2017 1:04:43 GMT
Speaking in general terms rather than about this project, I agree that directors are important, but I think the script is key, too. I can think of some great directors (Scorsese comes to mind) who sometimes work with terrible scripts that they can't overcome and that ruin their projects - for me anyway. William Goldman's book, Adventure's In the Screen Trade, is still illuminating about how scriptwriters and filmmakers work together. It's a miracle anything ever gets made! Goldman is very egocentric and I don't agree with him about everything, but the book is a good read.
I'm not worried about Melrose. I think they will be able to do something extraordinary with those novels.
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Post by sgev1977 on Apr 14, 2017 2:08:05 GMT
Agreed that there are impossible scripts but at the same time directors (and editors) can change a script until it's unrecognizable.
I'm curious which Scorsese movie do you think it has a terrible script? From recent projects I think The Wolf of Wall Street could have been better with a more precise editing so even when I think he and Thelma Schoonmaker are geniuses I think they were the ones to blame for that movie. Also the story and structure are very similar to Goodfellas with the exception that the last one is a classic.
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Post by coolclearwaters on Apr 14, 2017 2:20:18 GMT
Agreed that there are impossible scripts but at the same time directors (and editors) can change a script until it's unrecognizable. I'm curious which Scorsese movie do you think it has a terrible script? From recent projects I think The Wolf of Wall Street could have been better with a more precise editing so even when I think he and Thelma Schoonmaker are geniuses I think they were the ones to blame for that movie. Also the story and structure are very similar to Goodfellas with the exception that the last one is a classic. I thought the scripts for Cape Fear, Gangs of New York, and The Departed were pretty awful. It didn't help that The Departed was based on a far superior Hong Kong film, Infernal Affairs. I haven't been able to get through either Shutter Island or The Wolf of Wall Street. His ventures into episodic tv have been mixed, at best. I think he only directed one episode each go Boardwalk Empire and Vinyl, but must take some responsibility for those series. Boardwalk Empire started out to be a fairly interesting historical drama that rapidly deteriorated into a cartoon gangster story with characters that made no sense. Vinyl was just completely awful on every level.
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Post by sgev1977 on Apr 14, 2017 11:32:17 GMT
Gangs of New York and Cape Fear were weak, I guess. I kind of enjoyed The Departed but I haven't watched the original movie. IMO the last scene just made the movie: Mark Wahlberg killing Matt Damon and then the detail of the rat walking there. That's what great filmmakers do! Maybe the movie wasn't great but those little details just raise the level.
I watched Hugo again this week and it's a lovely movie but I think the two kids are just too pretty but not charismatic enough to be engaging. They look like models. It's a silly criticism but I believe if he would had chose his child stars with the same ability than Spielberg do it probably would had been much more successful film.
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Post by coolclearwaters on Apr 14, 2017 21:04:59 GMT
Gangs of New York and Cape Fear were weak, I guess. I kind of enjoyed The Departed but I haven't watched the original movie. Infernal Affairs isn't perfect (the music sometimes grates), but it stars Tony Leung, one of my favorite actors ever, in one of his greatest roles. Andy Lau is no slouch either. The film is tense and gripping , everything happens for a reason, and it's beautifully shot. Much of the action takes place on the rooftops of Hong Kong skyscrapers. The story has a moral complexity that you don't often find in an action movie. I can't recommend it highly enough. IA is available for streaming on Amazon. Here's the trailer: www.amazon.com/Infernal-Affairs-Tony-Leung/dp/B0088BSY8I
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Post by sgev1977 on Apr 14, 2017 22:54:46 GMT
I love Tony Leung. I had a Wong Kar-wai phase a few year ago so yes, I'm familiar with his work.
I will try to watch it!
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Post by coolclearwaters on Jun 24, 2017 20:20:08 GMT
I just found out that Walter Salles is listed as the director for The Man In The Rockefeller Suit. He directed Central Station and The Motorcycles Diaries, both of which I loved. He also directed On The Road, which I haven't seen. Interesting.
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Post by sgev1977 on Jun 24, 2017 20:26:30 GMT
I think Walter Salles isn't attached anymore. He was years ago but according to the articles the project doesn't have a director.
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Post by coolclearwaters on Jun 24, 2017 21:47:16 GMT
I confess, I decided to get a free trial for imbdPro and he is listed as the director. If they can't be more accurate than that, I'll cancel it.
I have seen a couple of reports in the last few days that mentioned him as director and many from April, but they may have used the same source.
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Post by sgev1977 on Jun 24, 2017 23:44:28 GMT
I'm basing my post in the original report:
And in Playlist:
But I could be wrong! He is an interesting director so I would be happy with him.
Also you don't need IMDBPro to see Walter Salles's name there. It's there since when BC's name was added so I interpreted it as they didn't bothering to edited it.
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