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Post by prudence on Jan 5, 2020 3:58:19 GMT
I watched Dracula today, and it was a lot of fun! Mofftiss really are brilliant at putting together tv shows that are wildly creative and full of surprises. I checked twitter afterwards, to see what people were saying, and there were ridiculous comments from people who weren’t planning to watch it. Some complained “I’m not watching this because I’m still angry about what you did with Sherlock”. And there were people questioning why they were remaking a story that’s already been told many times before. Ha! They probably said the same thing about remaking Sherlock. I won’t spoil Dracula for anyone, but this story is not like any you’ve seen before. Did you watch all 3 episodes or just the first?
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Post by mllemass on Jan 5, 2020 4:05:59 GMT
I watched them all.
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Post by roverpup on Jan 5, 2020 4:12:24 GMT
I have this series bookmarked on Netflix to watch soon. I agree with you that M&G are brilliantly creative so it's worth a look see for that alone. Thanks for not spoiling it - the fun of this sort of retelling is in the surprising details!😊
As for the sour grapes from the bitter Johnlockers/Freebatchers from Sherlock - I couldn't give a shit what they plan on NOT doing, because they didn't get to see their personal fanfic fantasy wank on their TV screens. 🙄
They really are tiresome.
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Post by mllemass on Jan 5, 2020 4:55:50 GMT
It’s sort of funny that some people are saying that they’ve “ruined” Dracula just like they ruined Sherlock. When the story doesn’t go in the direction they were expecting, it’s “ruined” apparently. Oh yes, and Mofftiss just do whatever they want and don’t care at all about the fans, and the BBC made a huge mistake in hiring them to make Dracula. I love it when people make statements on behalf of all “fans”! As a fan, I actually found myself clapping and shouting “Yay!” at a particular twist in the plot that most of the whiners are complaining about.
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Post by queenzod on Jan 5, 2020 5:05:24 GMT
I’ve seen some great reviews for it, but I’m so squeamish about gore that I’m not sure I can handle it. I do like Moftiss, within reason. Sometimes their plotting is absurd and makes no sense when you think about it, but b/c it’s just entertainment, I try not to let it bother me too much.
Someone said once that Moffat writes *moments* not stories, and I think I agree with that. He’s all there for a great scene, a flashy bit of tv fun, but just don’t think too hard about if that scene makes sense.
Like Sherlock wearing a sheet to Buckingham Palace? Absurd, ridiculous. But, it gave us an iconic moment which was a lot of fun, so...
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Post by mllemass on Jan 5, 2020 5:40:12 GMT
It’s a story about a vampire, so I really never once wondered if any of it made sense!
There are some plot points in Sherlock that still bug me whenever I see them - like Sherlock saying “John and I” when it should have been “John and me”, or Lestrade, John and Sherlock taking a taxi to go from the police station to Baker Street - why wouldn’t they take a police car? Or Sherlock not wearing his coat to go meet Moriarty at the pool, when he had been wearing it at home earlier (after their windows had blown out) and after Mrs Hudson had specifically said that it was cold out. But I prefer to think that there’s a good reason for these things that I’m missing!
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Post by queenzod on Jan 5, 2020 6:48:30 GMT
It’s a story about a vampire, so I really never once wondered if any of it made sense! There are some plot points in Sherlock that still bug me whenever I see them - like Sherlock saying “John and I” when it should have been “John and me”, or Lestrade, John and Sherlock taking a taxi to go from the police station to Baker Street - why wouldn’t they take a police car? Or Sherlock not wearing his coat to go meet Moriarty at the pool, when he had been wearing it at home earlier (after their windows had blown out) and after Mrs Hudson had specifically said that it was cold out. But I prefer to think that there’s a good reason for these things that I’m missing! Ha! That’s exactly the kind of stuff that bothers me, too, but I just think it’s bad writing. You can always cover for those things if you think it through, so the choice not to do so seems lazy to me. 🤷🏻♀️
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Post by MagdaFR on Jan 5, 2020 12:19:54 GMT
I also watched it but I didn't like much the last episode. It was funny in some parts like when Dracula came out from the sea. But I didn't like the girl, Lucy. I found her absolutely annoying. The episodes set in the past are excellent. Claes Bang is really excellent. The production design is excellent too. It’s a story about a vampire, so I really never once wondered if any of it made sense! I agree. The thing is that some people were expecting a version true to the original material. And in some way I think they have the right to be disappointed with the third episode. It is like what happened with the Sherlock special set in the past. Mofftiss promoted it as independent from the series and that wasn't true. I imagine there were many people who went to the theatre to watch a Sherlock Holmes movie and if they haven't watch the series they must have hated it. Here they did something similar.
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Post by sgev1977 on Jan 5, 2020 14:40:35 GMT
I haven't watched it but I will give my opinion anyway because I enjoy to give unasked opinions!
Just kidding! I wanted to say that I saw The Guardian gave it 5 stars out of 5 but I have seen a few mixed reactions out there. Agreed that a good number were by fan fiction looneys being unhappy that the producers didn't do what they imagined is best for the series or more exactly what is morally, politically and ethically correct and that casually coincides with what they found sexually stimulating. They never review what it's there but what it MUST be there but it's not because it only happens in their little minds.
Anyway, not all people unhappy with it are like that, of course. And I really liked a negative comment I read on Twitter saying that maybe Moffat and co. real talent is casting. I totally understand that! When I first watched Sherlock, I sincerely thought it was extremely silly and dumb but that the chemistry between BC and Freeman was everything. They two were the strength of the series not the writing nor even the style (that actually kind of helped it to make it interesting). Then around season three people began moaning that the plot was becoming silly and that everything was ridiculous and I thought (and I remember I said it on the IMDb's forums), "it was always like that! They were always very silly!" TBH it always felt like fan fiction in itself and they used to describe it like that themselves. Surely that was the reason they attract a lot of fan fiction aficionados, too. Nothing bad with that! It's their style, real-life cartoons made for adults with very talented actors. The surprise is when old fans criticized them for doing what they always did.
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Post by mllemass on Jan 5, 2020 15:38:25 GMT
So you agree with most of the comments I read on twitter! I saw it differently, though. As much as I enjoyed the first two episodes, I was starting to feel a bit disappointed that Mofftiss had given us a fairly predictable, but good, Dracula story. I had hoped to be surprised by something different, so I was beyond thrilled when it happened!
Also, I find a lot of characters in a lot of shows annoying, so it doesn’t even bother me anymore.
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